next drop candidates

[Stephan Kulow]

Hi,

mtr fails for 113 days
jpilot fails for 99 days
python-hacking fails for 98 days

I'm also sending another round of reminder mails.

Greetings, Stephan

[Marcus Meissner]

Post by Stephan Kulow
Hi,
mtr fails for 113 days
jpilot fails for 99 days
python-hacking fails for 98 days
I'm also sending another round of reminder mails.

I fixed mtr.

Ciao, Marcus

[Robert Schweikert]

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Hi,

Hi,
mtr fails for 113 days jpilot fails for 99 days python-hacking
fails for 98 days
I'm also sending another round of reminder mails.
Greetings, Stephan

Wasn't there some work going on to "fix" and or replace hermes?

I think the crux of this type of problem is that maintainers do not
get notified if their packages fail in factory. Thus, things fail
forever until "fix it or else" e-mails are necessary.

A gentler, probably more effective, system would be to notify package
maintainers when their package fails in factory. Maintainers can then
take appropriate action in a timely fashion.

Packages in factory that have no maintainer should go away. That will
partially solve the "e-mail to nowhere" problem. For those maintainers
that no longer care the notification can serve as a reminder to offer
the packages up for another maintainer to take over.

Later,
Robert


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Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX
Tech Lead
Public Cloud Architect
***@suse.com
***@ca.ibm.com
781-464-8147
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[Stephan Kulow]

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Post by Robert Schweikert
Hi,

Hi,
mtr fails for 113 days jpilot fails for 99 days python-hacking
fails for 98 days
I'm also sending another round of reminder mails.
Greetings, Stephan

Wasn't there some work going on to "fix" and or replace hermes?
I think the crux of this type of problem is that maintainers do
not get notified if their packages fail in factory. Thus, things
fail forever until "fix it or else" e-mails are necessary.
A gentler, probably more effective, system would be to notify
package maintainers when their package fails in factory.
Maintainers can then take appropriate action in a timely fashion.

python-hacking was part of several reminders - as was jpilot. And if
you wanted, you can enable notifications for failed packages in OBS
you maintain.

Greetings, Stephan

***@gertrude#checker>grep -rl python-hacking reports-201*
reports-2013-10-31/aspiers.txt
reports-2013-10-31/bmwiedemann.txt
reports-2013-10-31/dirkmueller.txt
reports-2013-10-31/iartarisi.txt
reports-2013-10-31/jdsn.txt
reports-2013-10-31/jfehlig.txt
reports-2013-10-31/-miska-.txt
reports-2013-10-31/mvidner.txt
reports-2013-10-31/rhafer.txt
reports-2013-10-31/saschpe.txt
reports-2013-10-31/scarabeus_factory.txt
reports-2013-10-31/tserong.txt
reports-2013-10-31/vuntz.txt
reports-2014-01-29/-miska-.txt
reports-2014-01-29/aspiers.txt
reports-2014-01-29/bmwiedemann.txt
reports-2014-01-29/dirkmueller.txt
reports-2014-01-29/iartarisi.txt
reports-2014-01-29/jdsn.txt
reports-2014-01-29/jfehlig.txt
reports-2014-01-29/mvidner.txt
reports-2014-01-29/rhafer.txt
reports-2014-01-29/saschpe.txt
reports-2014-01-29/scarabeus_factory.txt
reports-2014-01-29/tserong.txt
reports-2014-01-29/vuntz.txt
reports-2014-03-03/aspiers.txt
reports-2014-03-03/bmwiedemann.txt
reports-2014-03-03/dirkmueller.txt
reports-2014-03-03/iartarisi.txt
reports-2014-03-03/jdsn.txt
reports-2014-03-03/jfehlig.txt
reports-2014-03-03/jsuchome.txt
reports-2014-03-03/-miska-.txt
reports-2014-03-03/rhafer.txt
reports-2014-03-03/saschpe.txt
reports-2014-03-03/scarabeus_factory.txt
reports-2014-03-03/tserong.txt
reports-2014-03-03/vuntz.txt
reports-2014-05-12/aspiers.txt
reports-2014-05-12/bmwiedemann.txt
reports-2014-05-12/dirkmueller.txt
reports-2014-05-12/iartarisi.txt
reports-2014-05-12/jdsn.txt
reports-2014-05-12/jfehlig.txt
reports-2014-05-12/jsuchome.txt
reports-2014-05-12/-miska-.txt
reports-2014-05-12/rhafer.txt
reports-2014-05-12/saschpe.txt
reports-2014-05-12/scarabeus_factory.txt
reports-2014-05-12/tboerger.txt
reports-2014-05-12/tserong.txt
reports-2014-05-12/vuntz.txt
reports-2014-06-25/aspiers.txt
reports-2014-06-25/bmwiedemann.txt
reports-2014-06-25/dirkmueller.txt
reports-2014-06-25/iartarisi.txt
reports-2014-06-25/jdsn.txt
reports-2014-06-25/jfehlig.txt
reports-2014-06-25/jsuchome.txt
reports-2014-06-25/-miska-.txt
reports-2014-06-25/rhafer.txt
reports-2014-06-25/saschpe.txt
reports-2014-06-25/scarabeus_factory.txt
reports-2014-06-25/tboerger.txt
reports-2014-06-25/tserong.txt
reports-2014-06-25/vuntz.txt
reports-2014-07-21/aspiers.txt
reports-2014-07-21/bmwiedemann.txt
reports-2014-07-21/dirkmueller.txt
reports-2014-07-21/iartarisi.txt
reports-2014-07-21/jdsn.txt
reports-2014-07-21/jfehlig.txt
reports-2014-07-21/jsuchome.txt
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reports-2014-07-21/rhafer.txt
reports-2014-07-21/saschpe.txt
reports-2014-07-21/scarabeus_factory.txt
reports-2014-07-21/tboerger.txt
reports-2014-07-21/tserong.txt
reports-2014-07-21/vuntz.txt

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Ma muaß weiterkämpfen, kämpfen bis zum Umfalln, a wenn die
ganze Welt an Arsch offen hat, oder grad deswegn.
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[Robert Schweikert]

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Post by Stephan Kulow

Post by Robert Schweikert
Hi,

Hi,
mtr fails for 113 days jpilot fails for 99 days python-hacking
fails for 98 days
I'm also sending another round of reminder mails.
Greetings, Stephan

Wasn't there some work going on to "fix" and or replace hermes?
I think the crux of this type of problem is that maintainers do
not get notified if their packages fail in factory. Thus, things
fail forever until "fix it or else" e-mails are necessary.
A gentler, probably more effective, system would be to notify
package maintainers when their package fails in factory.
Maintainers can then take appropriate action in a timely
fashion.

python-hacking was part of several reminders - as was jpilot. And
if you wanted, you can enable notifications for failed packages in
OBS you maintain.

IMHO notifications for failing builds in Factory should not be opt in.
If the build fails in factory the maintainer gets a message. If
maintainers choose not to get messages about build failing in a devel
project that's one thing, but for factory there should not be an
option. It is after all our shiny new rolling release.

Later,
Robert


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Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
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Tech Lead
Public Cloud Architect
***@suse.com
***@ca.ibm.com
781-464-8147
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[Shawn W Dunn]

Post by Robert Schweikert
Hi,

Hi,
mtr fails for 113 days jpilot fails for 99 days python-hacking
fails for 98 days
I'm also sending another round of reminder mails.
Greetings, Stephan

Wasn't there some work going on to "fix" and or replace hermes?
I think the crux of this type of problem is that maintainers do not
get notified if their packages fail in factory. Thus, things fail
forever until "fix it or else" e-mails are necessary.
A gentler, probably more effective, system would be to notify package
maintainers when their package fails in factory. Maintainers can then
take appropriate action in a timely fashion.
Packages in factory that have no maintainer should go away. That will
partially solve the "e-mail to nowhere" problem. For those maintainers
that no longer care the notification can serve as a reminder to offer
the packages up for another maintainer to take over.
Later,
Robert

I personally wouldn't be opposed to seeing some sort of list, if possible, of
packages in need of maintainers. at least at present, I'm not working a day
job, so I've got some extra time.

[Stephan Kulow]

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Post by Shawn W Dunn
I personally wouldn't be opposed to seeing some sort of list, if
possible, of packages in need of maintainers. at least at
present, I'm not working a day job, so I've got some extra time.

Then don't become maintainer, but fix the build failures we see or do
version updates. The list is on http://s.kulow.org/factory-status

Greetings, Stephan

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Ma muaß weiterkämpfen, kämpfen bis zum Umfalln, a wenn die
ganze Welt an Arsch offen hat, oder grad deswegn.
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[Shawn W Dunn]

Post by Stephan Kulow

Post by Shawn W Dunn
I personally wouldn't be opposed to seeing some sort of list, if
possible, of packages in need of maintainers. at least at
present, I'm not working a day job, so I've got some extra time.

Then don't become maintainer, but fix the build failures we see or do
version updates. The list is on http://s.kulow.org/factory-status
Greetings, Stephan
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Excellent, will do.

[Stephan Kulow]

Post by Shawn W Dunn

Post by Stephan Kulow

Post by Shawn W Dunn
I personally wouldn't be opposed to seeing some sort of list, if
possible, of packages in need of maintainers. at least at
present, I'm not working a day job, so I've got some extra time.

Then don't become maintainer, but fix the build failures we see or do
version updates. The list is on http://s.kulow.org/factory-status
Greetings, Stephan
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Excellent, will do.

Just so this is not misunderstood: if you see a package you care for
and it appears outdated, feel free to grab maintainership - there is
a button on the webui for that :)

But don't do it because you have free time *right now* - maintainership
means commitment into the future.

Greetings, Stephan

[Shawn W Dunn]

Post by Stephan Kulow

Post by Shawn W Dunn

Post by Stephan Kulow

Post by Shawn W Dunn
I personally wouldn't be opposed to seeing some sort of list, if
possible, of packages in need of maintainers. at least at
present, I'm not working a day job, so I've got some extra time.

Then don't become maintainer, but fix the build failures we see or do
version updates. The list is on http://s.kulow.org/factory-status
Greetings, Stephan
--

Excellent, will do.

Just so this is not misunderstood: if you see a package you care for
and it appears outdated, feel free to grab maintainership - there is
a button on the webui for that :)
But don't do it because you have free time *right now* - maintainership
means commitment into the future.
Greetings, Stephan

Aye, That was why I wanted to know what was unmaintained, as I have interest
in maintaining certain things, and not others. Much like anybody else =]